SY Quraishi interview

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Date: Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: SY Quraishi interview
>>>>“They (Team Anna) will be monitored like everybody else,” Quraishi said.     “So far they have not violated any election law as they did not say that vote for Y instead of X. They only said they will only boycott a particular party. Although there is no legal violation, we did mention to them there could be an issue of propriety,” he said.

In USA,  trade unions, women/gay groups etc endorse democratic party where as the conservative groups endorse republican party.    ‘Endorsement’, implies asking members of an NGO/group vote for such a party  (and not for other party).   What kind of a law does India has that would prohibit Anna saying “vote for Y instead of X”.   

It seems laws in India are outdated from the British Raj that were designed for perpetuation of Indians slavery under British Raj, the Raj which is now replaced with one party ruling the country for most part since independence.   

I am giving below an article by a well known honest UK reporter/blogger George Monbiot, on the loot of India by British Raj and compare this with the looting of our netas, particularly from current ruling establishment.   Compare that with below.

a) According to one estimate, our netas stole in 60 years (actually most of it in less than 20 years), what British Raj took in 200 years.   According to Time magazine, just one 2G scam, gives us the distinction to be among the top 10 biggest political corruption in human history.

b) Just this summer, there was a documentary at film festival in New York city noting that the India’s farmers suicide is the biggest massive suicide in the human history.   Human history!!  Gulping the pesticides because they cannot afford as small amounts of few thousand rupees!!!  While British Raj produced famines,  our current rulers producing historic suicides,   250,000 and still counting.    For our Indian netas and babus life goes on.

c) While the Raj created a waste land from a country even until 1700s has 25% of World GDP (wonder why Columbus was searching for India),  our netas created an 80% population with less than 2$ income per day living a subhuman life,   70% do not even have place to pee showing their naked bottom to ease themselves,  every second child is malnourished and we are home of one third of the global poor. 

d) While China is eating up pieces of our nation and Pakistan is sacrificing our soldiers,  the terrorists and Maoists killing our internal security,  all country’s institutions are busy to protect the ruling establishment and their looting,  all their energies spend on what stories to spun so that those who are fighting to fix the system are discredited, putting curbs on freedom of media and bringing in false cases and even trying to beat and attempt to kill, people who are fasting in protest against corruption.

One would wonder when the netas/babus come and visit countries abroad, if it occurs to them that we can also create such a country, in fact,  proper political administration showed Gujarat and Bihar as remarkable examples that would make every Indian pride.    But that is not to be,  with exception of those like Vinod Rai,  even those who have best intentions are succumbing to the pressure and  moving us fast to another impoverished Africa.   

Mother, only a miracle can save you.


How Britain plundered colonial India – George Monbiot

Outsourcing Unrest
June 17, 2009
The 300 year colonial adventure is over at last, which is why Britain is in political crisis.By George Monbiot. Published in the Guardian 9th June 2009Why now? It’s not as if this is the first time our representatives have been caught out. The history of governments in all countries is the history of scandal, as those who rise to the top are generally the most ambitious, ruthless and unscrupulous people politics can produce. Pushing their own interests to the limit, they teeter perennially on the brink of disgrace, except when they fly clean over the edge. So why does the current ballyhoo threaten to destroy not only the government but also our antediluvian political system?The past 15 years have produced the cash-for-questions racket, the Hinduja and Ecclestone affairs, the lies and fabrications which led to the invasion of Iraq, the forced abandonment of the BAE corruption probe, the cash-for-honours caper and the cash-for-amendments scandal. By comparison to the outright subversion of the functions of government in some of these cases, the expenses scandal is small beer. Any one of them should have prompted the sweeping political reforms we are now debating. But they didn’t.

The expenses scandal, by contrast, could kill the Labour party. It might also force politicians of all parties to address our injust voting system, the unelected House of Lords, the excessive power of the executive, the legalised blackmail used by the whips and a score of further anachronisms and injustices. Why is it different?

I believe that the current political crisis has little to do with the expenses scandal, still less to do with Gordon Brown’s leadership. It arises because our economic system can no longer extract wealth from other nations. For the past 300 years, the revolutions and reforms experienced by almost all other developed countries have been averted in Britain by foreign remittances.

The social unrest which might have transformed our politics was instead outsourced to our colonies and unwilling trading partners. The rebellions in Ireland, India, China, the Caribbean, Egypt, South Africa, Malaya, Kenya, Iran and other places we subjugated were the price of political peace in Britain. Following decolonisation, our plunder of other nations was sustained by the banks. Now, for the first time in three centuries, they can no longer deliver, and we must at last confront our problems.

There will probably never be a full account of the robbery this country organised, but there are a few snapshots. In his book Capitalism and Colonial Production, Hamza Alavi estimates that the resource flow from India to Britain between 1793 and 1803 was in the order of £2m a year, the equivalent of many billions today. The economic drain from India, he notes, “has not only been a major factor in India’s impoverishment … it has also been a very significant factor in the Industrial Revolution in Britain.”(1) As Ralph Davis observes in The Industrial Revolution and British Overseas Trade, from the 1760s onwards India’s wealth “bought the national debt back from the Dutch and others … leaving Britain nearly free from overseas indebtedness when it came to face the great French wars from 1793.”(2)

In France, by contrast, as Eric Hobsbawn notes in The Age of Revolution, “the financial troubles of the monarchy brought matters to a head.” In 1788, half of France’s national expenditure was used to service its debt: “the American War and its debt broke the back of the monarchy”(3).

Even as the French were overthrowing the ancien regime, Britain’s landed classes were able to strengthen their economic power, seizing common property from the country’s poor by means of enclosure. Partly as a result of remittances from India and the Caribbean, the economy was booming and the state had the funds to ride out political crises. Later, after smashing India’s own industrial capacity, Britain forced that country to become a major export market for our manufactured goods, sustaining industrial employment here (and avoiding social unrest) long after our products and processes became uncompetitive.

Colonial plunder permitted the British state to balance its resource deficits as well. For some 200 years a river of food flowed into this country from places like Ireland, India and the Caribbean. In The Blood Never Dried, John Newsinger reveals that in 1748 Jamaica alone sent 17,400 tons of sugar to Britain; by 1815 this had risen to 73,800 tons(4). It was all produced by stolen labour.

Just as grain was sucked out of Ireland at the height of its great famine, so Britain continued to drain India of food during its catastrophic hungers. In Late Victorian Holocausts, Mike Davis shows that Indian wheat exports to the UK doubled between 1876 and 1877 as subsistence there collapsed(5). Several million Indians died of starvation. In the North Western provinces the famine was wholly engineered by British policy, as their surplus production was exported to offset poor English harvests in 1876 and 1877(6).

Britain, in other words, outsourced famine as well as social unrest. There was terrible poverty in this country in the second half of the 19th Century, but not mass starvation. The bad harvest of 1788 helped precipitate the French Revolution, but the British state avoided such hazards. Others died on our behalf.

In the late 19th Century, Davis shows, Britain’s vast deficits with the United States, Germany and its white Dominions were balanced by huge annual surpluses with India and (as a result of the opium trade) China. For a generation “the starving Indian and Chinese peasantries … braced the entire system of international settlements, allowing England’s continued financial supremacy to temporarily co-exist with its relative industrial decline.”(7) Britain’s trade surpluses with India allowed the City to become the world’s financial capital.

Its role in British colonisation was not a passive one. The bankruptcy and subsequent British takeover of Egypt in 1882 was hastened by a loan from Rothschild’s bank whose execution, Newsinger records, amounted to “fraud on a massive scale”(8). Jardine Matheson, once the biggest narco-trafficking outfit in world history (it dominated the Chinese opium trade), later formed a major investment bank, Jardine Fleming. It was taken over by JP Morgan Chase in 2000.

We lost our colonies, but the plunder has continued by other means. As Joseph Stiglitz shows in Globalisation and its Discontents, the capital liberalisation forced on Asian economies by the IMF permitted northern traders to loot hundreds of billions of dollars, precipitating the Asian financial crisis of 1997-98(9). Poorer nations have also been strong-armed into a series of amazingly one-sided treaties and commitments, such as Trade Related Investment Measures, bilateral investment agreements and the EU’s Economic Partnership Agreements(10). If you have ever wondered how a small, densely-populated country which produces very little supports itself, I would urge you to study these asymmetric arrangements.

But now, as John Lanchester demonstrates in his fascinating essay in the London Review of Books, the City could be fatally wounded(11). The nation which relied on financial services may take generations to recover from their collapse. The great British adventure – three centuries spent pillaging the labour, wealth and resources of other countries – is over. We cannot accept this, and seek gleeful revenge on a government which can no longer insulate us from reality.


1. Hamza Alavi, 1982. Capitalism and Colonial Production, pp 62-63. Croom Helm, London.

2. Ralph Davis, 1979. The Industrial Revolution and British Overseas Trade, pp55-56. Leicester University Press.

3. Eric Hobsbawm, 1962. The Age of Revolution, p78. Abacus, London.

4. John Newsinger, 2006. The Blood Never Dried, p14. Bookmarks, London.

5. Mike Davis, 2001. Late Victorian Holocausts, p27. Verso, London.

6. ibid, p51.

7. ibid, p297

8. John Newsinger, ibid, p86.

9. Joseph Stiglitz, 2002. Globalization and its Discontents. Allen Lane, London. First published in 2002 by W.W. Norton, New York.

10. See for example Myriam Vander Stichele, 24th October 2008. The facilitating framework for free investment and capital. Draft Briefing Paper. The Corner House.

11. John Lanchester, 28th May 2009. It’s Finished. London Review of Books.


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